Thursday, October 6, 2011

My light switch doesnt work?

im having a problem and am wondering whether it is the wiring or the switch that doesnt work. we recently changed the lights in the ceiling as the old was old. The new lights consisted of 3 wires- green/yellow (earth) blue (neutral) and brown (live). my wall has 6 wires, but they are sorted in 3s as they have a little loop around them. they are red black and the earth.

they gave us a luminaire? box thing,

we put the earth with earth and then wether we put the red or black it didnt matter. these were from the 3 ones. however if we used the other 3 the lights wouldnt turn on.



the problem is that the lights are ON but i cant turn them OFF?
My light switch doesnt work?
It sounds like your lighting circuit is on a ring.



There are 2 ways to organise a power circuit, either as a spur or as a ring circuit.



A spur is where you have 2 wires coming off the main supply, the switch will be on the live wire, then the light fitting and then returning to the neutral connection in the main supply and there are only 2 wires at each point to worry about - Red and Black or Blue and Brown, plus the earth (green / yellow)



A ring main lighting circuit is different - there is a live and neutral set of cabling going around the light fittings and then from the light fitting a cable that goes down to the switch and back to switch the light - and this is what it sounds like you have.



After turning the power off at the fuse board, to make things safe. In the fitting your should have 3 red wires (cores) all connected together, one of these is FROM the last fitting in the circuit, one of these is TO the next fitting and one of these goes to the switch. The Black core from the switch comes back and connects onto the Brown wire in the light fitting, the blue wire in the light fitting then connects to the other 2 black wires that should be hanging loose. With any luck that will work. All the earth connections go together



Now it sounds like you have connected something up wrong. You don't say which lights are always on - I suspect that it is the new fitting? What you probably have done is to connect the permanently live RED cores to the Blue or Brown of the fitting and the other wire in the fitting the the pair fo black.



Anyway, without seeing the cables and how it is all arranged I would consider getting an electrician in to sort it out - quicker and safer (if you get it wrong you could create a short circuit which at best will blow the fuse at worse it can overheat the cables - needing a re-wire of the whole house plus attention from the fire brigade with the small fire that is possible... small fires get bigger...



So anyway, I think I know what the problem is and I think I know how to fix it - but without seeing it, I can't say what to do - time to get a professional, 拢50 should sort it
My light switch doesnt work?
Before I start, I cannot obviously know how your circuit is organised and your explanation seems a little confusing, but here goes:



Normally the power would be supplied by 2 wires red and black (there would also be an earth, but as you say just connect all the earths together then forget about them). There would also be 2 wires coming from your switch.



Find the 2 wires that light up your bulb, these will be your main power wires. connect your blue wire from your lights to the black one of these two.



Now connect the other 2 wires (that probably go to your switch) so that they are connected red to red and black to brown.



so then you will end up with a kind or triangle of wiring.





mains in BLACK ----------------------------------------鈥? BLUE (light)



mains in RED --------------|

|

|

switch RED --------------|



switch BLACK ----------------------------------------鈥? BROWN (light)



Remember all earths are connected together, Work safely and turn off the power while working and if you a not sure consult a qualified electrician.



sorry but my diagram above does not seem to appear is I intended, it is supposed to show that the 2 red wires are connected together.

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